or something along thsoe lines, and I agree. If there were hard eveidence that the UD caused catastrophic failures, no one would use them. Some people said "the ES poly bushings are causing lower arms to crack". 5 people posted (with pictures) evidence that they've had this problem with ES bushings installed on their cars. Fair enough, I wouldn't use them now. However, this *hearsay* isn't enough to convince me to not use an UDP, and I'm sure this pertains to most everyone else.